5.34 working for anyone in linuxland?

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5.34 working for anyone in linuxland?

Postby newsraider » Wed May 16, 2007 3:58 pm

i always get a r6034 error microsoft visual error :(
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Postby DThor » Wed May 16, 2007 4:22 pm

wine release? distro?

Working fine here - Suse 10.2, wine 0.9.24


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Postby newsraider » Wed May 16, 2007 4:51 pm

ubuntu 7.04 wine 0.9.33
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Postby Quade » Wed May 16, 2007 5:02 pm

Did you install all the DLL's in the proper folders? I'm speaking of the microsoft DLL's that are now supplied in the Microsoft installer.

Older versions, these files were installed directly by the installer. The latest installer, uses a microsoft tool to update Windows.
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Postby newsraider » Wed May 16, 2007 5:52 pm

yeah i had already supplied the dlls and have been using newsbin fine for several months. i was just using 5.34 beta10 and didn't have any problems and then upgraded to the final release.
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Postby newsraider » Wed May 16, 2007 10:03 pm

just to test some i went back and installed
nb534RC5-8068

and it works :?:
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Postby Quade » Wed May 16, 2007 10:06 pm

Yeah no clue. They're all built the same way. Might try moving some of the files out of the data folder, like the NZZ files and see what happens.
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Postby newsraider » Wed May 16, 2007 10:13 pm

do you think it messes with something that i have the data folder in the same directory as the download folder?

its like this now

Newsgroups\Data\

newsgroups - is my download folder
data - of course is where my data is saved

these are not on my wine directory, these are in my regular home folder.
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Postby Quade » Wed May 16, 2007 10:45 pm

Try moving/renaming any instances of filters.xml you find laying around your box. This smells almost like a startup crash that plagued some of the early beta's.
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Postby DThor » Thu May 17, 2007 9:51 am

Also, as a quick test, rename your $HOME/.wine to something else, and do a virgin install of the latest. If it works, import your old nbi and move the spools over and NB will find them. Best thing I did was do a clean install - things seemed to have changed over time with how wine deals with profile locations, and I know some grief I had was related to old .wine layouts.

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Postby alpharm » Wed May 23, 2007 4:18 pm

I have tried to get it to work on Mepis 6.5.02 using Wine 0.9.37 and two versions of Newsbin. Using the latest 5.34 final release, everything installs fine, but nothing happens when trying to load Newsbin. I have uninstalled it and tried nb534RC5-8068 as a previous user stated worked for them, and when trying to load Newsbin I get the r6034 error.
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Postby DThor » Wed May 23, 2007 4:48 pm

Hang in there for a bit(better yet, if possible go back a version), since there's some oddness happening with the installer and Linux in very recent versions. This may or may not be related to your grief. Until you get things working I'd recommend doing every new attempt in a virgin(i.e. nonexisting) $HOME/.wine. That way you don't get distracted by dlls getting installed and left behind from previous versions.

At the moment I have a prerelease 5.34 8068 that works fine - the official release doesn't. Waiting until I get some time and Dex releases another build to test it again.

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Postby newsraider » Thu May 31, 2007 7:28 pm

dthor do you have the final release working?
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Postby DThor » Thu May 31, 2007 9:20 pm

Yes I do, but things have taken a weird turn for me my end. At some point I managed to get to the point where I can't start a new wine install(which I frequently do to test new NB releases in "virgin" systems). No matter what app I try to run, wine dies. I obviously installed something(I think it's related to 64 bit upgrade of some xml transform .so) that busted wine. So far, I've found one guy in Korea that's come across the same thing. :/

However, if I use my existing primary .wine directory, yes the latest runs just fine, along with other apps. I've been absolutely swamped at work lately with no immediate end in sight, but when I get a chance I'll investigate further.

The fact that NB *does* run fine, though, indicates that with the right dlls, it works OK.

Did you try a clean install in a new .wine?

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Postby newsraider » Thu May 31, 2007 9:53 pm

yes i did try a clean install with no luck.

i got my dlls from my xp sp2 system, do they need to come from vista now?
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Postby Quade » Thu May 31, 2007 9:54 pm

I'd think the statically linked version would be better for you Linux guys.
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Postby DThor » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:51 am

FWIW, here's the contents of my windows/system32 dir. I'm reasonably certain this contains no manually installed dlls - these were all installed when I ran wine(back when it worked for me :( ). As I recall the first time I ran NB back when(and it was trying to bring up the MOTD), it asked if I wanted gecko or something installed, which proceeded no doubt to snag a few of these. MOTD worked fine although there's been an ongoing bug where you can't close it with the OK button(wine issue, as always).

Again, to be clear, this install listed here works fine. My problem is with new installs. I'm betting it's because I'm running on x64 - some lib somewhere is getting confused.

This is wine-0.9.37 on SUSE 10.2/x64. Of course wine is 32 bit only so I have 32bit compatible libs installed.


And yup, Q's right, the statically linked version should rely on fewer things.

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Postby newsraider » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:28 pm

Quade wrote:I'd think the statically linked version would be better for you Linux guys.


and it does :!:

thanks :D
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